When trying to create a “better world”, it’s necessary to look critically at the ways oppressive systems, in particular white supremacy, are enmeshed with the things that get designed and built. — An interview with Post Growth Fellow, Pierce Gordon, Ph.D. At the State of Black Design Conference in 2021, Pierce shared his ideas about how an educational environment can bear witness to its deep and complicated relationship with oppressive systems, including white supremacy, and start to build a space made specifically…